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Former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton sat down with MSNBC’s Willie Geist to totally unironically discuss what wins elections. The former Secretary of State shared concerns about party infighting, lack of a cohesive platform, and the absence of an electoral strategy that appeals to folks beyond deep-blue districts.

She also appears to take shots at the progressive wing of her party.

“I think that it is a time for some careful thinking about what wins elections, and not just in deep-blue districts where a Democrat and a liberal Democrat, or so-called progressive Democrat, is going to win,” Clinton said. “I understand why people want to argue for their priorities. That’s what they believe they were elected to do.”

“I’m all about having vigorous debate,” Clinton continues. “I think it’s good, and it gives people a chance to be part of the process. But, at the end of the day it means nothing if we don’t have a Congress that will get things done, and we don’t have a White House that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive.”

Democrats managed to pass the trillion-dollar infrastructure bill earlier this year, but couldn’t stick the landing on President Biden’s Build Back Better agenda. Couple that with Biden’s terrible approval numbers, a botched Afghanistan withdrawal, unchecked inflation, and spiking COVID numbers —it’s no wonder Clinton is worried about a red wave come midterms.

Clinton also offered her thoughts on whether or not we’ve seen the last of Donald Trump.

“If I were a betting person, I’d say Trump is going to run again,” Clinton says. “If he’s not held accountable and he gets to do it again, I think that could be the end of our democracy.”

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